Protek escribió:Pues tiene buena pinta, pero siempre y cuando las armas disparen balas y no rayos ultrapotentes y tal, que a mi las armas futuristas como en Tribe no me molan nada.
Ahora a esperar un buen gameplay y a salir de dudas, pero ya que han dado un giro en la saga tan pronunciado, a ver si esas cabezas pensantes tambien han dado un giro y nos sorprenden con mapas grandes y algo mas táctica, aunque lo veo poco probable y seguiremos con guetomapas ya vereis...
Both Masons will receive help from Frank Woods who somehow did not die in the original Black Ops. In that game's campaign he tackled villainous Victor Kravchenko, who was wearing a belt of live grenades, out a window. Hidden intel in Black Ops hinted at the possibility of Woods being alive at a POW camp in Hanoi.
A very old Woods is still alive in 2025 and a narrator of sorts in Black Ops 2. He explains what happened in the 80s while on assignment with Alex Mason and why it matters in the game's present.
Woods has an ongoing story of his own, and though it's unclear, the Treyarch team hinted at a major third-act reveal imagined by Goyer. Maybe I'm way off, but could Woods have been brainwashed in Hanoi like Alex Mason was in Vorkuta in the original Black Ops?
Anyhow, in the late 1980s, which will be roughly a third of the game, you will see how Menendez becomes a monster of a man, and in 2025, you will see what he's capable of. It's rather unsettling.
What's most important, though, Lamia tells me, is believability. "We gotta be grounded," he repeats time and again, like a holy mantra.
June 19, 2024: Los Angeles, California
A well-dressed man covered in blood shrieks in agony. David Mason pushes him into a seat and looks around the limousine, spotting the president. She looks like a younger Hillary Clinton. We hear G20 leaders across the world are under attack.
The vehicle is speeding down the highway. Outside, blinking construction signs call for an evacuation of Los Angeles. Above, a swarm of dozens, maybe hundreds of drones are bombarding the skyscrapers and roads. One swoops over the limo, lighting it up.
Mason pulls the president from the wrecked car, dashes across the highway, and hops into a turret atop a military vehicle dangling precariously off the lifted roadway. The weapon locks onto a half dozen or so drones at a time, chasing them with heat seeking rockets. A drone shot out of the air crashed onto the highway and skips like a three-ton stone over Mason, nearly slicing the head from his shoulders.
A drone crashes onto the highway and skips like a three-ton stone over Mason's head.
In action-star fashion, Mason abandons the turret moments before it slides off the freeway in a thunderclap of fire and cement. "On route to prom night with the president," some colleague says.
The president is repelled beneath the freeway by a couple of soldiers, while Mason provides cover with a sniper rifle. It's futurefied with the ability to see enemies through cars and cement barrier. They look like images from the new scattershot x-ray machines at airports -- Lamia later mentions them as an inspiration for the weapon.
When Mason pulls the trigger, it kicks sharply back, letting out a piercing noise, like wood slapping pavement.
Mason finally makes his way down to the lower road, hops in a sports utility vehicle, and drives through the abandoned street, hammering cars and pulverizing enemy soldiers. Up ahead, the vaulted freeway begins to collapse.
A female pilot keeps watch over Mason from a Vertical Take-Off and Landing aircraft, a harrier-like jet (remember, from Saints Row The Third). She provides direction through the dizzying battlefield.
"Most of the city's a full blown war zone," shouts some guy. The Pentagon and Wall Street are in equal or worse shape we hear, before a red semi sideswipes the vehicle.
Cut to black...
"The arena district is compromised," screams a grainy voice over the radio. Mason opens his eyes.
He is in the arena district, between the massive storefronts of a futuristic Staples Center and Nokia Theater.
A horse-like robot called the Cognitive Land Assault Weapon, C.L.A.W. for short, led by the enemies, shoots a cop apart. You've seen something like this machine before. In game, it's bigger and scarier.
Mason and what remains of the U.S. soldiers shoot the heavy steel legs out from beneath the C.L.A.W., and fire a round into its rear panel, igniting the fuel chamber into a plume of smoke and flame and electricity.
He heads into a shopping center. A swarm of friendly quadropcopters, basically military grade versions of the AR.Drone Parrot, swoop in. Mason dials a few numbers into his wrist computer, which literally wraps around his forearm, commanding the gaggle of flying artillery-bots. He makes his way through the interior of a shopping area. When an enemy charges him, Mason lifts his other hand, which is wrapped in a glove-like electronic-device, and fires a propulsive blast of air, knocking the baddie to the floor.
Outside is a horror show. Falling buildings and dead civilians. A skyscraper comes down, the rush of debris screaming towards Mason.
Cut to black...
Mason wakes up, and the intersection is filled with brown air, ash and little flames.
The pilot in the VTOL calls in. She's been injured. The plane lands and she is taken by paramedics to an ambulance. Naturally and without a second thought, Mason pilots the vacated aircraft.
He doesn't know a thing about flying one of these, but a voice on the radio says the "flight computer should handle most of the work."
The VTOL is entirely player controlled, from steering to boosting to shooting. Mason releases missiles with abandon, decimating parking structures, drones and more red semis. Apparently the latter are the chosen vehicle of enemies nationwide.
Things are going fine, until Mason hits another plane dead on - in what is a rather showy display of heroism. He ejects at the last moment, launches his chute, slides into the side of building and tumbles towards the ground.
Pause screen. That's it.
If you're a connoisseur of the franchise, you know Black Ops was a bit more covert. A bit less bombastic than the landmark destroying Modern Warfare series. Lamia assures me that this game will have more top-secret, no-one-ever-knew-you-were-there missions.
But they wanted to introduce Black Ops 2 with a bang.
Dave Anthony, game director on Black Ops 2, says he used to love choose your own adventures, and that, for years, he's wanted to bring something similar to Call of Duty.
"For the first time," he says, "player decisions will impact the story."
He explains that this will work in two ways: Key decisions will have significance from a narrative point of view, but so will skill. How well you do will influence the narrative's outcome. Main squad members and villains' henchmen will live or die depending on what you do and how you do it.
He says these won't be small impacts. The result of the new Cold War and the success of Raul Menendez will depend solely on the player.
"At end of campaign," Anthony says, "you'll see how things could have been different."
Anthony says Strike Force missions are one example of how player decision and ability will impact the outcome of the story.
Strike Force missions are sets of levels that will shape the outcome of the Cold War between the United States and China. They are non-linear, sandbox campaign missions.
They exist within the single-player campaign's main story. At choke points throughout the campaign, you will be updated on the state of the world at large by being shown a number of conflicts. As a covert operative, you will select one mission from the set of missions, and do your best to complete it. Whether your group lives or dies will affect the game's story.
Strike Force missions are like team-based multiplayer scrimmages — played by one player. The player is able to shift between all available soldiers and robots on his team on a battlefield. You could hop from a rifleman's perspective to a drone to a C.L.A.W. in a matter of seconds, and omniscient overhead view will allow you to give, what looks like, real-time strategy commands. Send this guy here, direct this drone to flank from the right.
The goal is to kill the opposing A.I.-controlled team and complete a series of objectives in any order. When a person dies or a bot is destroyed, it is gone, and you inhabit who or whatever remains. Run out of people or time, and the mission is lost.
We see a Strike Force mission on a shipping dock in Singapore. The mission is to capture the A, B and C points.
The Treyarch employee running the demo makes quick work of the opposition. One moment he's a soldier, the next he's a C.L.A.W. He's flying a drone, now he's a mobile rocket launcher called the Autonomous Ground Robot, or A.G.R.
He pulls out to the commander view, and we see the squad, controlled by the computer on his behalf, maintaining status quo, taking cover, and making careful moves against the enemy.
He zips back into a soldier and calls in air strike to take out boat, completing mission. Lamia laughs. You could play the mission this way, or you could just play as a single soldier. It's totally up to the player, they say.
In a way, it looks like single-player multiplayer. One person controlling an entire team in a game of domination.
David Vonderhaar comments on the importance of keeping the game running at a solid 60 frames a second. He stresses, “60 frames a second, whether you see it or not, you feel it.” He adds, ”there’s no hitching. It’s that zen you feel when your brain feeds into the controller and back… that’s why 60fps is important to us.”
two multiplayer maps that they had the chance to experience: one taking place on a small Yemen island called Socotra while the second taking place in downtown Los Angeles after a devastating drone attack. The first is described as being reminiscent of Modern Warfare 3′s DLC map Piazza while the second interestingly takes place near the E3 convention center. It could also be described as a more vertical take on the Wall Street map also featured in Modern Warfare 3. The toppled buildings make for manic geometry as players make their way through debris, smoke and fire. When it comes to engine upgrades, The Verge was told that the complex shadows casted by branches in the former Yemen map could not have been rendered by the older version of the game’s engine, as an example.
Multiplayer is set in 2025 exclusively. Game design director David Vonderhaar explains the decision was purely gameplay motivated.
He is incredibly careful not to reveal much of anything, speaking in vague, elliptical thoughts. They're planning to kill some sacred cows, he tells us, though he won't say which in particular.
One thing Vonderhaar promises is 60 frames per second.
"60 frames a second, whether you see it or not, you feel it," says Vonderhaar. "There's no hitching. It's that zen you feel when your brain feeds into the controller and back ... that's why 60fps is important to us."
We see two maps.
The first is on a small Yemen island called Socotra. It's reminiscent of the Modern Warfare 3 DLC map Piazza.
The houses are small and appear to be constructed from clay and stone, filled with dozens of electric fans to keep out the heat. Tight alleyways lead up and down the hilly terrain. A sneak-way grips onto the side of a cliff that cuts into the emerald ocean below. In the center of town is a tree that looks like this:
The complex shadows of the branches, we're told, couldn't have been rendered in the old version of the game's engine.
The other map is downtown Los Angeles following the single-player campaign's drone attack. On a street sign are the words Figueroa. This is literally where E3 takes place every summer.
The geometry is manic. The idea was for players to fight through a building that's been toppled over. It's like a vertical spin on Wall Street in Modern Warfare 3, filled with fire, smoke, sparks, rebar and thin streams of light.
There's parking lot, a garage, ripped up street, fire escapes, elevator shafts and flooded lobbies. Across the street are coffee shops, fountains and a two floor shopping area. It's incredibly intricate and chaotic, a flip of the serene Socotra where seagulls and waves could be heard in the distance.
David Vonderhaar mentions e-sports. He says Black Ops for PS3 was on the Major League Gaming circuit, but at the time the team didn't fully comprehend the significance of competitive gaming. Now, Vonderharr says they find it amazing.
"E-sports is a big agenda for us," says Vonderharr. "More importantly, taking e-sports to the mainstream is a really key thing, but in order to do that you have to make the game fun to watch"
How they'll do that, they won't say.
Next-up, Zombies. Zombies will be the co-op mode for the game. The team insinuated that Spec-Ops and Survival will not be included.
For Zombies, there will be a new world and new modes. Lamia says in general, more isn't always better. Except with zombies. Fans always want more ways to play the mode, and Treyarch plans on giving them just that.
For tech heads, this will be the first time Zombies runs in the multiplayer engine. Previous Zombies modes were jury rigged using the campaign engine
Near the end of this lengthy session, we were shown the improvements the team is making with their motion capture system. They created a female character to stress test the software's ability to create believable facial animations. This was neat, but was surpassed by footage of a horse being motion captured.
In a mission set during the 1980s in Afghanistan, Alex Mason rides a horse, who was fully motion captured in the House of Moves in Los Angeles. And it looks pretty believable. As do the faces of the characters. Just look at the close-up of Woods in the reveal trailer to get a grasp of how far the motion capture tech has come.
In fact, the game in general looks believable considering the future setting. The team at Treyarch clearly has done a tremendous amount of research into how the world will look a little over a decade from now. The loud colors and bright lights of future LA don't look quite as becoming as the dark corridors of the original Black Ops. That's the cost, perhaps, of bigger environments with greater detail, all the while maintaining 60 frames per second.
If anything's holding back the graphics, it's the current console generation's hardware.
Outside the theater during a break I spot a piece of concept art presumably from the horse sequence. A member of the Muhajideen with a stinger missile launcher strapped to his back, evades an attack from what looks like a Russian helicopter.
Lamia's words echo in my head: "Gotta keep it grounded." I'm sure that mantra stands, until an idea like this one pops up. After all, what fun would Black Ops 2 be without a helicopter-versus-horse battle to the death?
El Quadrotor, también llamado Charlene
A.G.R.: Autonomous Ground Robot
Cognitive Land Assault Weapon (C.L.A.W.)
F-35 Hovering
X-45 el de la derecha:
Predator C Avenger (UCAV)
Posible vista en primera persona
X-47 Pegasus
Se especula con que esta imagen es la del Pegasus
Caballos
KARD
M1911
XM8 prototipo de rifle de asalto que se canceló en 2005
M16 o al menos eso parece
M249 SAW
AN-94 Abakan
Future tri-barrelled Shotgun?
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12 de Junio de 2025
19 de Junio de 2025
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. Habrá que ver más del multi pero no me ha gustado nada lo visto en el trailer. ![[+risas]](/images/smilies/nuevos/risa_ani3.gif "más risas")
y ojo, no soy un fanboy de los cod, el mw3 y el mw2 ni siquiera me gustan. ![[tadoramo]](/images/smilies/adora.gif "Adorando")
pero espero que no le den un protagonismo excesivo a las máquinas. indigo_rs escribió:Este tiene pinta de ser el mejor Cod de la historia
indigo_rs escribió:Este tiene pinta de ser el mejor Cod de la historia
Dart_17 escribió:indigo_rs escribió:Este tiene pinta de ser el mejor Cod de la historia
Si te fijas dice: "Cuando el enemigo tiene la llave, la tecnología se vuelve contra nosotros, las máquinas que creamos para protegernos se vuelven contra nosotros, y fue entonces cuando se dieron cuenta de que necesitan hombres como nosotros"
Con esto quyiero decir que las máquinas serán secundarias.
Eso está bien, como los hombres y las armas tradicionales no hay nada , hasta en el video se ven carreras a caballos que eso muy futurista no es jose juan escribió:ayran escribió:Modo Zombies de hasta 8 jugadores confirmado.
Fijate que a mi el tema de los zombies no me tira,pero de tanto hablar tanto la gente creo que aqui le dare mucho,y con 8 personas puede ser la hostia
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Ahora va a resultar que las campañas del black ops y cod 5 son malas lo que hay que ver, la del black ops es sublime
![[qmparto]](/images/smilies/net_quemeparto.gif "Que me parto!")
), momentos absurdos donde no se trata de pegar tiros ni nada sino llegar al punto X para que se active la siguiente secuencia si no te salta un bug y encima tienes que volver a empezar... 
pinaculo escribió:Vale, y la disertación sobre la campaña en éste hilo viene a cuento de qué?
Las campañas como yo he dicho mil y una veces en éstos juegos son simples añadidos, la esencia de los 70 pavos está sólo en el modo multi.
Desde luego lo que le pido a un shooter es algo similar a lo que ví en el cod 4 y en el black ops, y lo que no quiero es el mw2 y el mw2.5 (alias mw3) por favor. La ambientación me da un poquito igual, pero quiero un shooter en primera persona donde los vehículos tomen el protagonismo absoluto en un porcentaje elevado de las pantallas (en plan battlefield, y sin menospreciar, pero busco la acción personal, no la del helicóptero de turno en plan metal pesado o atacama del bc2), no quiero un shooter en tercera persona con hombres de clembuterol persiguiendo a extraterrestres (está manidísimo para mí el tema alien vs humanos), y tampoco quiero un shooter que se quede a medias (que sería lo ideal) como el battlefront pero que no se encarguen de arreglar.
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jose juan escribió:No digas eso que yo el otro dia dije algo parecido y se me tiraron al cuello mas de uno
jose juan escribió:Bueno aqui os dejo en que consistira el nuevo modo Strike Force
La idea del modo Strike Force nace para acabar con las merecidas críticas a la corta duración de las campañas de la saga. Según vayamos avanzando en el juego se nos ofrecerán varias misiones, dándonos a elegir entre una de ellas y cerrando las demás una vez hayamos hecho nuestra elección.
Cada una de estas misiones ofrece una parte de la historia y aunque se da a entender que la elección, éxito y fracaso de cada una de ellas afectará al juego, se desconoce hasta qué punto lo hará sobre la historia.
En estas misiones el modo de juego clásico de las últimas entregas de ‘Call of Duty’ desaparece, invitándonos a comandar un grupo de asalto en grandes niveles tipo sandbox. Para afrontar las misiones se nos darán cuatro opciones (aunque podrían presentarse más en el juego final): realizarlas como soldado, comandando alguno de los drones aéreos, controlando los tanques armados que hemos podido ver en imágenes o ejecutando órdenes a escuadrones desde el aire.
Los objetivos de estas misiones siempre seguirán unos mismos patrones, pero la forma en la que alcancemos nuestros objetivos dependerán exclusivamente de nosotros. Una forma de darle un giro a la saga y aumentar su rejugabilidad que ya ha servido a quienes han probado el juego para acercar más estas misiones a un ‘Ghost Recon’ que a un ‘Call of Duty’.
Cabe destacar que el modo campaña no se reducirá a este tipo de misiones, podremos disfrutar de la acción palomitera clásica de las últimas entregas de la saga, pero entre capítulo y capítulo se nos dará la opción de ampliar la historia usando este nuevo modo de juego.]
Y aqui cositas de la historia del juegoA diferencia de lo que se podría obviar por las imágenes mostradas, no todo la historia de ‘Call of Duty: Black Ops II’ estará centrada en un futuro cercano. El juego nos irá mostrando dos líneas temporales, una situada en 2025, a la que pertenecen los helicópteros y tanques futuristas, que ocupará gran parte del juego. La otra volverá a la Guerra Fría para continuar la historia que contó el primer ‘Black Ops’.
La historia será narrada por Frank Woods, a quien conoceréis de la primera entrega, mientras que el juego nos pondrá en la piel de Alex Mason y David Mason. El primero, padre del segundo, será el encargado de hacer rodar la historia durante el período de la Guerra Fría, mientras que el segundo será el encargado de hacer lo propio en el futuro.
La historia gira en torno a una segunda Guerra Fría, esta vez entre los Estados Unidos y China, propiciada por el control de los conocidos como materiales raros de la tierra. Aquellos que estén al día del panorama tecnológico que nos deparan avances como los vehículos eléctricos estarán familiarizados con el término.
China posee actualmente el control del 95% de la explotación de dichos materiales, y obviamente el gobierno de los Estados Unidos buscará la forma de darle la vuelta al asunto. Sin embargo el enemigo principal en esta entrega será Raúl Martínez, un hombre que ha conseguido piratear el equipamiento electrónico de ambos países para propiciar la citada guerra.
La historia está escrita por uno de los guionistas de Batman Begins y El Caballero Oscuro, y por primera vez dejará a un lado la linealidad para mostrar distintos finales y situaciones dependiendo de las decisiones que tomemos. Es ahí donde entra otra de las novedades del juego, las misiones Strike Force.
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porrao escribió:Ahora va a resultar que las campañas del black ops y cod 5 son malas lo que hay que ver, la del black ops es sublime
Malas no, normalitas y rancias y no te olvides la del sublime COD3. Bugs por todos lados, IA inexistente, eso sí, experta en tirar granadas, te puedes pasar pantallas sin pegar un tiro...
Es más, la jugabilidad se basa en eso(En el COD3 incluso hay logros por ello, pasarte un pantalla sin pegar un tiro y no precisamente a lo MGS
En el BO mejoraron algo la historia dándole más peso, pero desaprovechaba totalmente la ambientación y situaciones, como Hue o Khe San donde se trata de correr sin sentido.
Totalmente penoso debido al añejo motor gráfico del Quake3(rentable no, lo siguiente) momentos en que te dan un lanzacohetes para que dispares a unas cabañas de palillos y tururú, hasta que milagro se active la secuencia de turno...
En calidad si lo relacionasemos con el cine estaría más cerca de Los Boinas verdes o alguna de Chuck Norris que de las películas que pretende homenajear, Platoon, Apocalipse Now...
Vamos, todo lo que pedimos a estas alturas a un triple A
Eso por no hablar del aspecto técnico, donde las texturas del COD3 son mejores que las del BO
Esta mecánica tocó techo en el COD2 que deja en ridículo a lo actual incluso con el tiempo pasado. En el CODIV sacaron de la manga la genial misión del franco y desde estonces una misería que a estas alturas ya huele a rancio.
De las de Treyarch me quedaría con la campaña rusa del CODV por ambientación y tal, pero vamos, a estas alturas hay que pedir algo más...
Por desgracia muchos establecen el estandar de calidad de los FPS por los COD, y así nos luce el pelo, clavados en la misma base jugable de hace 10 años pero sin la mitad de carisma de un RTCW y ya de un Half Lilfe 2 o similares ni hablamos...
,unas risas no vienen malJosito520 escribió:pinaculo escribió:Yo acepto todas las opiniones, y estoy de acuerdo en el tema gráfico, pero a nadie más le parece que antes de hacer mejoras gráficas deberían mejorar el juego y las diferencias de conexiones?.
+1,hace poco heche un par de partidas al black ops y iba lageado.
En el mw2 no noto tanto el tema del lag.
. Por curiosidad, desde cuándo llevas jugando al cod? Dices en black ops mejoraron la historia pero fallaron en la ambientación
Vale, y la disertación sobre la campaña en éste hilo viene a cuento de qué?
