[HO] Yakuza Saga

Pues aprovecho que he encontrado el hilo este para preguntar. Me llama la atención la saga, aunque nunca he jugado a ningún título y ahora que tengo una PS4 me gustaría iniciarme. He visto que hay 3 títulos, el Kiwami, el 0 y el 6 (que creo que aun no ha salido de Japón). ¿Con cual debería empezar?
Fatman_1987 escribió:Pues aprovecho que he encontrado el hilo este para preguntar. Me llama la atención la saga, aunque nunca he jugado a ningún título y ahora que tengo una PS4 me gustaría iniciarme. He visto que hay 3 títulos, el Kiwami, el 0 y el 6 (que creo que aun no ha salido de Japón). ¿Con cual debería empezar?


Con el 0.

El Kiwami es un remake del 1.
Luego en PS2 tienes el 2 y en PS3 el 3, 4, 5 y el spin off Dead Souls.
Y en PS4 en Japón el 6 que saldrá aquí en Abril y el Kiwami 2 que es un remake del 2 y de momento no se sabe si vendrá a occidente.
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Interesante entrevista a Scott Strichart, uno de los encargados de traducir y localizar los Yakuza al inglés:

https://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/314 ... e_West.php
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Más entrevistas al colega de las localizaciones en occidente:

https://www.usgamer.net/articles/inside ... calization

http://comicbook.com/gaming/2018/02/10/ ... view-sega/

https://venturebeat.com/2018/02/11/yaku ... hilosophy/


Y Gamespot, aprovechando la salida de Yakuza 6, hace un vistazo a los diez años de historia de la saga:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UitUl6o1ALU
Me imagino que muchos ya la habréis leido, pero bueno por si acaso... ayer me recomendaron esta entrevista y joter, me ha parecido tremenda:

https://boingboing.net/2010/08/10/yakuza-3-review.html

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Bueno Yakuza 5 pasado a vistas al 6, no puedo esperar ver como continua la historia viendo como nos han dejado al final del 5.

Eso si ¿alguien tiene un resumen de lo que pasa en el 5?, lo he ido jugando por temporadas, y entre el ingles, la distancia entre vicios, y que es tan enrevesado al final ya me he pedido por completo XD.

La verdad es que la saga Yakuza ha logrado algo que no logra ninguna otra saga y que en mi opinion la convierte en la "mejor saga" de juegos de la historia, es la continuidad, el que todos los juegos sean secuelas directas, que todos esten conectados, que veamos la evolucion con los años de Kaburocho, de los protas, de sus relaciones, o el simple hecho de que veamos crecer a Haruka, ¿cuantas sagas logran crear un mundo, un universo tan pequeño pero sin embargo tan grande y profundo? ¿cuantas sagas pueden crear un final como el del 5 tan brutal y tan alejado de la historia del propio juego?, algo asi solo es posible cuando creas una relacion entre personajes durante tantos juegos tan extensos.

Eso si, el juego sigue teniendo algunos fallos que personalmente me tocan mucho las narices, y el principal son los jefes, abusivos, chetados, y que acaban convirtiendo las peleas en un ejercicio de aguantar hostias, gastar objetos de vida hasta que lo matas de lo rotos que son. Si seguro que los pros se los pasan sin que los toquen, pero al menos yo jugador normal el jefe final ha sido un "te lo para todo" "te lo esquiva todo" "te comes todos sus combos" "te mete un combo que no te deja parar o esquivar cuando te levantas", un coñazo vamos.

En fin, quitando eso juegazo, y Haruka adorable.
Nuku nuku escribió:Eso si ¿alguien tiene un resumen de lo que pasa en el 5?, lo he ido jugando por temporadas, y entre el ingles, la distancia entre vicios, y que es tan enrevesado al final ya me he pedido por completo XD.


Hombre, si te vale en inglés aquí la tienes:
https://www.reddit.com/r/yakuzagames/comments/3yk9ug/can_anyone_explain_the_full_plot_of_5_to_me/

Okay, i'll try to write what i understood. So buckle up mothefucker its a wild fucking ride

So it all starts with the recent sickness of the chairman of the Omi Alliance. The Omi Alliance has been in a shaky alliance with the Tojo Clan since the end of Yakuza 2, but with the possible future death of the chairman 3 people are the most likely successors for the leadership of the Omi Alliance and all three more or less hate the Tojo Clan, so Daigo goes to other prefectures to try and make alliances with other clans for the future war between the two biggest clans. That's basically what this seems to be happening at first glance. But whats truly going on are the machinations of Kurosawa, the dying Omi Alliance Chairleader.

See, Kurosawa rose from the the absolute bottom of the barrel to leader of the second most powerful clan of Japan doing stuff that nobody would do. At some point he even mentions literally eating shit to excuse himself after a botched job. So this path of life gave him two main "ideals": he saw everyone else just as pawns and he hated these charismatic and idealistic Yakuza, like Kiryu, Saejima, Watase, Majima, Daigo and basically everyone of the cast, that managed to inspire and bring what he seems to think are the most deadbeat of them all. This all comes to a crashing point when he discovers he has terminal cancer and will die. There is no one that he deems worthy in what are basically the entire line of viable successors, so he goes and remembers he has some son working as a soldier in the Tojo Clan:Aizawa. So he, i think, concots a plan to destroy the Tojo Clan and any possible rival for Aizawa in the succession, with the help of Omi Alliance Members, Tojo Clan Members and even outside people like Baba, who seems to be a hired Assassin.

So i'm going to try explaining what happens in the cities, but heres his main plan: He wants to bring every CHARISMATIC Yakuza to tokyo and murders them all for the world to see. He will kill both members of the Omi Alliance and the Tojo Clan to weaken it so that Aizawa can basically rise unnopposed

Fukuoka:He has two plans here basically: kill Daigo, which he failed because Daigo knew something was up and disappeared from the map, and to bring Kiryu from hiding to Tokyo so he can murder him there. So here is where the traitors inside the Tojo Clan work for him. Aoyama, Morinaga and Aizawa who are the main Tojo Traitors try to have Daigo killed in the reunion with the leader of the Yakuza in Fukuoka, and set a coup to goad Kiryu into action. Now i'm not sure if the coup was something done in the moment by Aoyama or if this was planned but it was successful in bringing Kiryu in action. Kurosawa himself appears as a Osaka detective and begins to direct Kiryu on a collision course with Watase, one of the top lieutenants of the Omi Alliance that he wants gone, and finally manage to convince Kiryu of going to Kamurocho by faking Majima's death. So this leads to Sapporo

Sapporo: Here once again has two objectives here: Kill or capture Majima who was the one doing the negotiations with the yakuza clan of Sapporo and goad Saejima into going to Kamurocho. Here his main forces come from the seemingly Yakuza-less group made by Kugihara, Baba and some more inmates. Their main objective was to get Saejima out of the prison as soon as possible, though probably of the group only Baba knew about this part. So Kugihara beats the shit out of Saejima, they manipulate the prison system, everything so that Saejima gets tired of the prison and tries to breakout. Meanwhile during the negotiations Majima gets shot by Kurosawa's men and flees. Kurosawa fakes his death, Saejima gets word out of it and breaks out the prison alongside Baba, and later becomes his KYODAI. Later Kurosawa also posing as an Osakan Detective goads Saejima into going to Tokyo to find Morinaga who supposedly was the one who made the hit on Majima

Osaka: So Majima survived the hit, and made contact with his buddies in Osaka:Ms. Park, his ex-wife(the greatest of plot-twists) and a aidoru producer, and Naoki Katsuya, his buddie an ex-actor also turned producer and one of the top lieutenant of the Omi Alliance who Kurosawa also wants dead. So Majima sends some letter to Park that might expose his current location. But this was all part of his keikaku, and this was just a plan made by the trio, to expose who was the traitor inside the Omi Alliance. Said traitor was Kanai, member of Katsuya's family, who was tasked by Kurosawa to find said letter. Kanai and his troops kill Park, who gives the letter to Haruka, who was the aidoru being managed by her. So Haruka and Akiyama protect this letter while trying to find who killed Park(Kanai) and trying to protect her YUME:Make Haruka do a show in the Tokyo Dome. So they go to Tokyo

Nagoya:Meanwhile in Nagoya, Daigo begins to do his investigation. So Nagoya has a funny yakuza group in the sense that nobody knows who are these yakuza and where to find them, and remember Daigo wanted alliances. So to find the truth about the Nagoya family he enlists the help of someone who might have been involved in the events that allowed the creation of said family: Tatsuo Shinada, an ex-baseball player who was involved into a corruption scheme and banned for life from the professional sport and the scandal allowed the police to run scare the Tojo and the Omi away. Also Shinada was an old friend of his from junior high days, so he is also doing this for his buddy, because DREAMS. So Shinada snoops around and finds out that the Nagoya family, its just a bunch of normal people playing yakuza so that the other big time yakuza family are unable to get territory. What these normal people don't know, that while they are indeed able seemingly scare away the two big families, they're actually being controlled by a Yakuza family that gets to do whatever they want with them. The family in question is Kurosawa's old family(could be wrong tho, i'm starting to forget the game, i wrote the first half right before i finished the game and i'm completing this a week later so lots of detail are probably missing). Daigo only learns the first part, but i think its fair to say that he probably clued the pieces and finally had the suspect in his mind: Kurosawa. Shinada and Daigo goes to Tokyo

Tokyo: I'll resume tokyo. Kiryu and Saejima are looking for Morinaga, who by now was dead and buried by Aizawa because he said that Kiryu is 2gud4him so its better to not even try which angers Aizawa. Saejima runs into Aizawa in purgatory and beats the shit of him, because muh kyodai. I don't get it, why Aizawa is still playing around but he is, i don't get why Kage doesn't know about Aizawa but he doesn't, so lets just roll with it. Shinada at some point learns that the MASTERMIND(Kurosawa) wants to fuck with Haruka concert and becomes buddies with Akiyama. Kiryu, Saejima, Watase and Katsuya execute the dumbest plan in history to reveal Kurosawa. He is revealed but counters it with the dastardly tactic of shooting people from far away instead of ripping your shit off. Daigo appears and goes "AHAHA GOT YOU FUCKER" but Daigo is useless and Kanai shoots him. So Katsuya and Daigo are in the hospital, the crew finally gets together and try to stop Kurosawa from fucking with Haruka's concert of YUMEs. So this sets the final battle:

FINAL Battle: So the plan was to go to the concert to save all the dreams, but Kurosawa at some point raids the Tojo clan office in the Millenium Tower and probably captures Majima there, and threathens Majima to kill Haruka with his already in place sniper Baba. So Saejima is lured and Majima and Saejima have to fight, partially because of said sniper but really they're just doing MUH KYODAI stuff. Meanwhile Kiryu and Akiyama sticks around to beat Kurosawa's goons while Shinada goes to the concert to save Haruka because "Entertainers gotta stick together and DREAMS and shit". So Baba at this point has already pretty much give up of killing Haruka and is just leaving but Shinada bursts in the scene and beats Baba because he needs a final battle. Also because he can't run away from your mistakes you gotta own it up, and don't forget you have your KYODAIS. After the fight, Baba has his prison KYODAIS and Shinada gets to have bareback sex so its a happy ending. Meanwhile Saejima and Majima are like "ahaha u fucked up kyodai" and Kurosawa is like "shit" and tries to kill them with guns but Daigo uses his ability to shoot well near death that he showed in Yakuza 3 and kills his goons and Kurosawa coughs blood, so you know its over, but then Kurosawa explains that he did this for his successor. So while this whole deal was going on Aizawa goes and murders all the big Tojo officers in the HQ. So Kiryu goes there and Akiyama gets to fight Kanai and get revenge for Park and DREAMS. Kiryu fights Aizawa who is now not playing around anymore. So heres quickly Aizawa motivation: He hates Yakuza that get everything handed to him(Daigo), and he wants to prove to everyone that hard work pays off and you don't need no machinations by beating Kiryu. So they fight while DREAMY AIDORU music plays, but a half dead Kiryu beats the shit of Aizawa and says "ANY TIME, ANY PLACE BITCH". Haruka fucks her Aidoru career and declares that she loves Kiryu to everyone and runs back to meet him. Kiryu asks if this is a dream, but no this is real life.
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* Más vídeos sobre los combates de Hokuta ga Gotoku:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNM5gDa ... e=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh0Nuwt ... e=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgDWOye ... e=youtu.be


* Ya podéis reservar Yakuza 6 en la Store, con regalo de un tema:

- Versión normal a 60 €: https://store.playstation.com/es-es/pro ... 6DIGITALPR

- Y especial con Yakuza 0 a 75 €: https://store.playstation.com/es-es/pro ... 6POBUNDLE0

Si sois del Plus os descuentan un 10 %.
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Nuku nuku escribió:Eso si ¿alguien tiene un resumen de lo que pasa en el 5?, lo he ido jugando por temporadas, y entre el ingles, la distancia entre vicios, y que es tan enrevesado al final ya me he pedido por completo XD.


Hombre, si te vale en inglés aquí la tienes:
https://www.reddit.com/r/yakuzagames/comments/3yk9ug/can_anyone_explain_the_full_plot_of_5_to_me/

Okay, i'll try to write what i understood. So buckle up mothefucker its a wild fucking ride

So it all starts with the recent sickness of the chairman of the Omi Alliance. The Omi Alliance has been in a shaky alliance with the Tojo Clan since the end of Yakuza 2, but with the possible future death of the chairman 3 people are the most likely successors for the leadership of the Omi Alliance and all three more or less hate the Tojo Clan, so Daigo goes to other prefectures to try and make alliances with other clans for the future war between the two biggest clans. That's basically what this seems to be happening at first glance. But whats truly going on are the machinations of Kurosawa, the dying Omi Alliance Chairleader.

See, Kurosawa rose from the the absolute bottom of the barrel to leader of the second most powerful clan of Japan doing stuff that nobody would do. At some point he even mentions literally eating shit to excuse himself after a botched job. So this path of life gave him two main "ideals": he saw everyone else just as pawns and he hated these charismatic and idealistic Yakuza, like Kiryu, Saejima, Watase, Majima, Daigo and basically everyone of the cast, that managed to inspire and bring what he seems to think are the most deadbeat of them all. This all comes to a crashing point when he discovers he has terminal cancer and will die. There is no one that he deems worthy in what are basically the entire line of viable successors, so he goes and remembers he has some son working as a soldier in the Tojo Clan:Aizawa. So he, i think, concots a plan to destroy the Tojo Clan and any possible rival for Aizawa in the succession, with the help of Omi Alliance Members, Tojo Clan Members and even outside people like Baba, who seems to be a hired Assassin.

So i'm going to try explaining what happens in the cities, but heres his main plan: He wants to bring every CHARISMATIC Yakuza to tokyo and murders them all for the world to see. He will kill both members of the Omi Alliance and the Tojo Clan to weaken it so that Aizawa can basically rise unnopposed

Fukuoka:He has two plans here basically: kill Daigo, which he failed because Daigo knew something was up and disappeared from the map, and to bring Kiryu from hiding to Tokyo so he can murder him there. So here is where the traitors inside the Tojo Clan work for him. Aoyama, Morinaga and Aizawa who are the main Tojo Traitors try to have Daigo killed in the reunion with the leader of the Yakuza in Fukuoka, and set a coup to goad Kiryu into action. Now i'm not sure if the coup was something done in the moment by Aoyama or if this was planned but it was successful in bringing Kiryu in action. Kurosawa himself appears as a Osaka detective and begins to direct Kiryu on a collision course with Watase, one of the top lieutenants of the Omi Alliance that he wants gone, and finally manage to convince Kiryu of going to Kamurocho by faking Majima's death. So this leads to Sapporo

Sapporo: Here once again has two objectives here: Kill or capture Majima who was the one doing the negotiations with the yakuza clan of Sapporo and goad Saejima into going to Kamurocho. Here his main forces come from the seemingly Yakuza-less group made by Kugihara, Baba and some more inmates. Their main objective was to get Saejima out of the prison as soon as possible, though probably of the group only Baba knew about this part. So Kugihara beats the shit out of Saejima, they manipulate the prison system, everything so that Saejima gets tired of the prison and tries to breakout. Meanwhile during the negotiations Majima gets shot by Kurosawa's men and flees. Kurosawa fakes his death, Saejima gets word out of it and breaks out the prison alongside Baba, and later becomes his KYODAI. Later Kurosawa also posing as an Osakan Detective goads Saejima into going to Tokyo to find Morinaga who supposedly was the one who made the hit on Majima

Osaka: So Majima survived the hit, and made contact with his buddies in Osaka:Ms. Park, his ex-wife(the greatest of plot-twists) and a aidoru producer, and Naoki Katsuya, his buddie an ex-actor also turned producer and one of the top lieutenant of the Omi Alliance who Kurosawa also wants dead. So Majima sends some letter to Park that might expose his current location. But this was all part of his keikaku, and this was just a plan made by the trio, to expose who was the traitor inside the Omi Alliance. Said traitor was Kanai, member of Katsuya's family, who was tasked by Kurosawa to find said letter. Kanai and his troops kill Park, who gives the letter to Haruka, who was the aidoru being managed by her. So Haruka and Akiyama protect this letter while trying to find who killed Park(Kanai) and trying to protect her YUME:Make Haruka do a show in the Tokyo Dome. So they go to Tokyo

Nagoya:Meanwhile in Nagoya, Daigo begins to do his investigation. So Nagoya has a funny yakuza group in the sense that nobody knows who are these yakuza and where to find them, and remember Daigo wanted alliances. So to find the truth about the Nagoya family he enlists the help of someone who might have been involved in the events that allowed the creation of said family: Tatsuo Shinada, an ex-baseball player who was involved into a corruption scheme and banned for life from the professional sport and the scandal allowed the police to run scare the Tojo and the Omi away. Also Shinada was an old friend of his from junior high days, so he is also doing this for his buddy, because DREAMS. So Shinada snoops around and finds out that the Nagoya family, its just a bunch of normal people playing yakuza so that the other big time yakuza family are unable to get territory. What these normal people don't know, that while they are indeed able seemingly scare away the two big families, they're actually being controlled by a Yakuza family that gets to do whatever they want with them. The family in question is Kurosawa's old family(could be wrong tho, i'm starting to forget the game, i wrote the first half right before i finished the game and i'm completing this a week later so lots of detail are probably missing). Daigo only learns the first part, but i think its fair to say that he probably clued the pieces and finally had the suspect in his mind: Kurosawa. Shinada and Daigo goes to Tokyo

Tokyo: I'll resume tokyo. Kiryu and Saejima are looking for Morinaga, who by now was dead and buried by Aizawa because he said that Kiryu is 2gud4him so its better to not even try which angers Aizawa. Saejima runs into Aizawa in purgatory and beats the shit of him, because muh kyodai. I don't get it, why Aizawa is still playing around but he is, i don't get why Kage doesn't know about Aizawa but he doesn't, so lets just roll with it. Shinada at some point learns that the MASTERMIND(Kurosawa) wants to fuck with Haruka concert and becomes buddies with Akiyama. Kiryu, Saejima, Watase and Katsuya execute the dumbest plan in history to reveal Kurosawa. He is revealed but counters it with the dastardly tactic of shooting people from far away instead of ripping your shit off. Daigo appears and goes "AHAHA GOT YOU FUCKER" but Daigo is useless and Kanai shoots him. So Katsuya and Daigo are in the hospital, the crew finally gets together and try to stop Kurosawa from fucking with Haruka's concert of YUMEs. So this sets the final battle:

FINAL Battle: So the plan was to go to the concert to save all the dreams, but Kurosawa at some point raids the Tojo clan office in the Millenium Tower and probably captures Majima there, and threathens Majima to kill Haruka with his already in place sniper Baba. So Saejima is lured and Majima and Saejima have to fight, partially because of said sniper but really they're just doing MUH KYODAI stuff. Meanwhile Kiryu and Akiyama sticks around to beat Kurosawa's goons while Shinada goes to the concert to save Haruka because "Entertainers gotta stick together and DREAMS and shit". So Baba at this point has already pretty much give up of killing Haruka and is just leaving but Shinada bursts in the scene and beats Baba because he needs a final battle. Also because he can't run away from your mistakes you gotta own it up, and don't forget you have your KYODAIS. After the fight, Baba has his prison KYODAIS and Shinada gets to have bareback sex so its a happy ending. Meanwhile Saejima and Majima are like "ahaha u fucked up kyodai" and Kurosawa is like "shit" and tries to kill them with guns but Daigo uses his ability to shoot well near death that he showed in Yakuza 3 and kills his goons and Kurosawa coughs blood, so you know its over, but then Kurosawa explains that he did this for his successor. So while this whole deal was going on Aizawa goes and murders all the big Tojo officers in the HQ. So Kiryu goes there and Akiyama gets to fight Kanai and get revenge for Park and DREAMS. Kiryu fights Aizawa who is now not playing around anymore. So heres quickly Aizawa motivation: He hates Yakuza that get everything handed to him(Daigo), and he wants to prove to everyone that hard work pays off and you don't need no machinations by beating Kiryu. So they fight while DREAMY AIDORU music plays, but a half dead Kiryu beats the shit of Aizawa and says "ANY TIME, ANY PLACE BITCH". Haruka fucks her Aidoru career and declares that she loves Kiryu to everyone and runs back to meet him. Kiryu asks if this is a dream, but no this is real life.



Muchas gracias, que enrevesado todo por dios XD, si cuesta seguirlo leyendo un resumen en el juego ya ni te digo.

Bueno supongo que en el 6 aclararan todos los puntos que aqui quedan abiertos.

Que pasa con la alianza Omi, que pasa con el Tojo clan ahora que todos los altos cargos menos Saejima Kiryu y Majima han muerto, y sobre todo que pasa con la carrera de Haruka. Y ya pensando mal si ese "le quiero" es en plan "le quiero como a un padre" o "le quiero como en Usagi Drop" XD