Project Dream - Petición para que Sega fabrique una Dreamcast nueva

ernacaro28 escribió:Una nueva Dreamcast?, a dia de hoy mucho se lo tiene que currar Sega, pero ahi va mi voto de confianza con mi firma.

Gromber escribió:

ernacaro28 escribió:Una nueva Dreamcast?, a dia de hoy mucho se lo tiene que currar Sega, pero ahi va mi voto de confianza con mi firma.

Simplemente lo que se pide es una nueva dreamcast, es decir para rular nuestros juegos actuales, con salida hdmi, discoduro etc...

9 dic 2015 — Hi all, it wasn't long since my last update but I thought I would keep you all informed.

I have been contacted by an interested party, namely a company that builds mini Pc's, Android gaming tablets and consoles and other gizmos and gadgets.

This company cannot be named at this stage but they are very innovative and have crazy coders and designers that are capable of anything tech related ranging from software development, right up to hardware development.

The best thing is, they WANT to take the project on should it get the green light from Sega.

We need your help. We need signatures, we need you to spread the word, drop some comments, get it trending out there.

We are now in the stages where we are going to begin drafting plans and ideas for the official proposal to Sega.

***Update 1 – 2015-12-21 11:31 CET***

When I woke up this morning, I got blown away by the fact that our Dreamcast 2 article had become a huge hit (it was the first thing that I saw when I checked my phone), and the SEGA community seems to be really excited and thrilled about “Project Dream” (and so am I). And it´s just about to get even better, because Patrick Lawsen shared quite a lot of information about the “Dream” project with us late last night. So I collected Lawsen´s comments and arranged them in chronological order for you guys down below:

“I’m truly excited about the Crowdfunded prospect for SEGA RingEdge Zero/RingWide Elite. There’s virtually no competition in the PC rig business and most PC gamers are left having to spend heavy budgets on building the perfect rig as Alienware is both expensive and just doesn’t offer Quality for its less expensive rigs. The design and spec build we’ve chosen has Intel Core i5 Haswell, the most popular and strongest quality performing CPU among PC gaming enthusiasts.

“Quality” and “Quality Control” is something missing in-game hardware brands now in days. And is something SEGA had with all of its consoles.

If we can get just a million backers worldwide, our upcoming KS could be funded in record time and with SEGA licensing it could have it out on the market in less than a year!

Genesis Neo/Dreamcast Evolution I’m even MORE hyped for. This is the chance for SEGA to do something really innovative,cutting edge and NEW. This was SEGA back in the day, pioneering and always trying something completely new and original! Ahead of their time!”
“Part of our goal is for SEGA to price either product for an affordable,cheap price. Part of the magic about SEGA is that being primarily and Arcade Amusement company, they have the resources and ability to sell a Home Consumer Product at far better price points than Sony,Nintendo and Microsoft because they never built consoles from scratch and instead use Arcade Machine parts and accessories.

All SEGA consoles were/are based off Arcade hardware and all except Dreamcast were sold at profit including Sega Saturn. The reason why DC was sold at a loss was because it was priced $50 too cheap. Its original price was supposed to be $250(because its BOM price was $175) and SEGA did not have enough supply for its NAOMI Arcade counterpart for mass production due to the fact that its SH-4 Katana motherboard was mainly used in Hybrid Cars.

SEGA can also do what not even PlayStation can: They have the technology to sell developers SDKs at cheaper prices and can cut budget and development costs on console games.”

“Miku,Yakuza,Aliens,Hero Bank,Samurai and Dragons,Crazy Taxi,Ecco The Dolphin,Virtua Cop,Virtua Fighter,Border Break,Bayonetta,Shinobi,Total War, Company of Heroes,Phantasy Star,Skies of Arcadia,End of Eternity,Sands of Destruction,Valkyria,Shining Force,Billy Hatcher,Nights,Panzer Dragoon,Fighting Vipers,NY Gunblade,L.A. Machineguns,Operation GHOSTS,Dream Raiders,Let’s Go Island, SEGA Bass,SEGA Rally,Daytona USA,Under Night in Birth,Demon Tribe, Shenmue, Code of Joker. SEGA has far more viable and superior 1st party IPs then Sony that would be able to sell at a more diverse base of consumers: Particularly Casuals,PC games and Veteran gamers. People who don’t own PS4 or care for it.”

“Sega’s current Arcade boards are RINGEDGE 2 and Nu from 2012-2013. SEGA should be unveiling some new Arcade hardware at AOU in February. We have SOJ interns involved. They will present the ideas to SEGA of Japan next Quarter. SEGA will revive its old IPs.”

“Yuji Naka himself just accepted FB request. We have asked Joanne to translate in Japanese for us. If Naka gets involved, it’s going to make headlines and catch SEGA Holdings attention.” – Patrick Lawsen

In other words, it seems like the “Dream Project” is taking off big time, and “if” Yuji Naka (game designer, producer, programmer and the former head of Sonic Team) gets involved in the project. Then this is going to be on the headlines all over the world for sure (don´t forget who it was that dropped the news first). Sure, I know that one shouldn´t day dream too much (or get to hyped up). Nevertheless, just the thought of a new SEGA console makes my heart speed like crazy. So I´m going to watch the “Dream Project” like a hungry vulture from now on.

Credit:
Patrick Lawsen

Gromber escribió:trolleada? kickstarter? venta? projectdream

https://www.change.org/p/sega-of-americ ... u/14530046

9 dic 2015 — Hi all, it wasn't long since my last update but I thought I would keep you all informed.

I have been contacted by an interested party, namely a company that builds mini Pc's, Android gaming tablets and consoles and other gizmos and gadgets.

This company cannot be named at this stage but they are very innovative and have crazy coders and designers that are capable of anything tech related ranging from software development, right up to hardware development.

The best thing is, they WANT to take the project on should it get the green light from Sega.

We need your help. We need signatures, we need you to spread the word, drop some comments, get it trending out there.

We are now in the stages where we are going to begin drafting plans and ideas for the official proposal to Sega.

Resumiendo una empresa fabricante de hardware android se intereso en la petición y buscaban la aprobación de sega para sacar el proyecto adelante.

Tambien se comenta que puede que la misma Sega piense en introducirse en el mercado de hardware de nuevo

update:

***Update 1 – 2015-12-21 11:31 CET***

When I woke up this morning, I got blown away by the fact that our Dreamcast 2 article had become a huge hit (it was the first thing that I saw when I checked my phone), and the SEGA community seems to be really excited and thrilled about “Project Dream” (and so am I). And it´s just about to get even better, because Patrick Lawsen shared quite a lot of information about the “Dream” project with us late last night. So I collected Lawsen´s comments and arranged them in chronological order for you guys down below:

“I’m truly excited about the Crowdfunded prospect for SEGA RingEdge Zero/RingWide Elite. There’s virtually no competition in the PC rig business and most PC gamers are left having to spend heavy budgets on building the perfect rig as Alienware is both expensive and just doesn’t offer Quality for its less expensive rigs. The design and spec build we’ve chosen has Intel Core i5 Haswell, the most popular and strongest quality performing CPU among PC gaming enthusiasts.

“Quality” and “Quality Control” is something missing in-game hardware brands now in days. And is something SEGA had with all of its consoles.

If we can get just a million backers worldwide, our upcoming KS could be funded in record time and with SEGA licensing it could have it out on the market in less than a year!

Genesis Neo/Dreamcast Evolution I’m even MORE hyped for. This is the chance for SEGA to do something really innovative,cutting edge and NEW. This was SEGA back in the day, pioneering and always trying something completely new and original! Ahead of their time!”
“Part of our goal is for SEGA to price either product for an affordable,cheap price. Part of the magic about SEGA is that being primarily and Arcade Amusement company, they have the resources and ability to sell a Home Consumer Product at far better price points than Sony,Nintendo and Microsoft because they never built consoles from scratch and instead use Arcade Machine parts and accessories.

All SEGA consoles were/are based off Arcade hardware and all except Dreamcast were sold at profit including Sega Saturn. The reason why DC was sold at a loss was because it was priced $50 too cheap. Its original price was supposed to be $250(because its BOM price was $175) and SEGA did not have enough supply for its NAOMI Arcade counterpart for mass production due to the fact that its SH-4 Katana motherboard was mainly used in Hybrid Cars.

SEGA can also do what not even PlayStation can: They have the technology to sell developers SDKs at cheaper prices and can cut budget and development costs on console games.”

“Miku,Yakuza,Aliens,Hero Bank,Samurai and Dragons,Crazy Taxi,Ecco The Dolphin,Virtua Cop,Virtua Fighter,Border Break,Bayonetta,Shinobi,Total War, Company of Heroes,Phantasy Star,Skies of Arcadia,End of Eternity,Sands of Destruction,Valkyria,Shining Force,Billy Hatcher,Nights,Panzer Dragoon,Fighting Vipers,NY Gunblade,L.A. Machineguns,Operation GHOSTS,Dream Raiders,Let’s Go Island, SEGA Bass,SEGA Rally,Daytona USA,Under Night in Birth,Demon Tribe, Shenmue, Code of Joker. SEGA has far more viable and superior 1st party IPs then Sony that would be able to sell at a more diverse base of consumers: Particularly Casuals,PC games and Veteran gamers. People who don’t own PS4 or care for it.”

“Sega’s current Arcade boards are RINGEDGE 2 and Nu from 2012-2013. SEGA should be unveiling some new Arcade hardware at AOU in February. We have SOJ interns involved. They will present the ideas to SEGA of Japan next Quarter. SEGA will revive its old IPs.”

“Yuji Naka himself just accepted FB request. We have asked Joanne to translate in Japanese for us. If Naka gets involved, it’s going to make headlines and catch SEGA Holdings attention.” – Patrick Lawsen

In other words, it seems like the “Dream Project” is taking off big time, and “if” Yuji Naka (game designer, producer, programmer and the former head of Sonic Team) gets involved in the project. Then this is going to be on the headlines all over the world for sure (don´t forget who it was that dropped the news first). Sure, I know that one shouldn´t day dream too much (or get to hyped up). Nevertheless, just the thought of a new SEGA console makes my heart speed like crazy. So I´m going to watch the “Dream Project” like a hungry vulture from now on.

Credit:
Patrick Lawsen

http://thegg.net/hot-news/the-sega-drea ... ect-dream/



Veremos en que queda todo.

legionpsm escribió:Parece un proyecto genial, pero si ademas puede cargar juegos de anteriores consolas de sega, mucho mejor .

Un saludo.

naikon escribió:

legionpsm escribió:Parece un proyecto genial, pero si ademas puede cargar juegos de anteriores consolas de sega, mucho mejor .

Un saludo.

naaa pa eso esta la scene

fbpr85 escribió:Mmm no es por generar discordia, pero parte de lo que proponen ya existe sin esperar a nadie (yo ya lo tengo)

Plataforma; PC (HDMI, HDD, spdif, etc)
Software; Demul
Resolución interna; al menos doble lo cual levanta mucho.
Control 360 (x-input) para soporte de vibración y demás.

Y así, eso si requiere una inversión importante ya que requiere buena potencia de cálculo, vamos un Intel con el IPC más alto que puedan encontrar y una gráfica gtx 750-ti por lo menos (no es como nulldc o reicast que se ejecutan hasta en una tostadora, pero también asi es su nivel)

Un saludo.

fbpr85 escribió:Hola Hasami Age, siendo prácticos ya sabemos como acaba esto; mucha ilusión y humo y luego sacan alguna chuchería ARM con núcleo android que termina ejecutando todo a base de emuladores porteados de PC (un ejemplo, lo que se hizo con la neo geo portátil oficial, la retron 5 con hdmi, etc) o en el mejor de los casos una imitación por hardware el cual no incluye en su totalidad cada uno de los componentes de la maquina original (véase retro duo, retron 3) lo que conlleva que no pueda correr todos los juegos disponibles por incompatibilidad (y aun los que corre no todos van sin errores) hoy en día es más preciso el emulador "bsnes" que un clon del hardware original (claro en su modo "accurate" lo cual requiere potencia) y estamos hablando de sistemas relativamente básicos, ahora una Dreamcast...

En este momento no se puede comparar una "promesa" como es este proyecto a algo tangible como lo es Demul (las promesas siempre dejan expectativas muy altas y luego cuando se tiene el resultado final es cuando llega el bajón)

Digo yo, si al final del día por mucho humo que se diga van a resolver todo a base de emuladores ¿por que no ir a donde están los mejores? = PC (ojo no hablo de funcionales si no de los punteros)

En cuanto una consola para desarrollar no lo veo, volvemos de nuevo a PC donde esta steam, su tienda y todo el mercado Indie para obtener ganancias (por poner un ejemplo ya que hay más)

Perdón por el tocho, pero buscaba un lugar donde exponer lo que se lleva haciendo en la industria de este tipo.

Saludos.

Gromber escribió:Sega, ha registrado, segun varias webs, el pasado noviembre, lo siguiente.



Veremos en que queda, como siempre, pero el logo mola.

Una posible interfaz realizada por uno de los promotores del project dream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coIu7UjSszM

17 ene 2016 — We have made some very good progress and have managed to establish contact with Sega Of Japan .
We can not comment too much on that at this stage until pending decisions are made.

Just to note:

Any official update will be posted here and also on the Project Dream Facebook group by either one of our core team members.

Each member has a role assigned to them and you can read more about that over on our website http://www.projectdream.co

Gromber escribió:Buena noticia con lo del contacto, aunque los japos son muy suyos... veremos.

Gromber escribió:hombre, si es un pc "camuflado" porque no va a salir xD

Gromber escribió:no me acordaba del post, al parecer hay novedades, gente de sega se han puesto en contacto con el equipo de la propuesta y estan esperando recibir la documentación y estudios de mercado que estan preparando para entregarselo a la gente adecuada.

Hey there, Dreamers! We are kicking off our first blog post with some updates that have happened over the past month. Updates for the development of the project will now be posted on our Project Dream blog as well as the change.org petition e-mail updates, and our Dreamcast Revival Facebook group.

The past few months has been a crazy ride for us all! The media coverage of the campaign has been fantastic and we have never been more proud of our fan community. Our team has been extremely hard at work on the UI and hardware prototypes. To those who haven’t read any updates within the Facebook group, a member of our team is an original design manufacturer (ODM) with factories throughout southeast Asia. His team has built printed circuit board assemblies, consumer electronics, and other everyday items from the ground up. He has been an integral part of this project in taking some of the concepts we have created and making them into a reality. His work with component manufacturers has been amazing and we are extremely happy to have him onboard!

In regards to the proposal, we are hard at work on putting the finishing touches on the full proposal. An abridged version will be sent over to Sega initially with overall design concepts. With any luck, we are shooting to present the full version of the proposal with hardware and software prototypes in person at Sega in Tokyo. If you aren’t part of the Facebook group, please join! We have been using the Facebook group as a think tank of sorts, utilizing polls and user feedback to drive design iterations. Please join and make your ideas heard! We are aiming to have the proposal finished in the next few weeks.

Once the proposal is finished, we will be sending it to Sega for initial review. As said in multiple interviews, our team has made contact with Sega. We have spoken with various influencers at Sega and have had one on one conversations with an executive at Sega Sammy. Those who we have spoken to are very receptive to our project. While many err on the side of caution due to the nature of the project, we have still been invited to send our proposal over to have it personally reviewed and get it in front of all of the decision-makers at Sega.

Stay tuned and keep the dream alive!