cholei escribió:vale.a mi me sobra para decirte que tengo un hijo de 3 años,y una amiga con hijo de 4 que el niño es la cosa mas enferma que hay,y su madre es muy sana sanota,pero vegetariana.y el medico,que a la postre es el jefe de planta de pediatria del xeral de vigo,le dijo,que sus gilipolleces,las haga ella sola,que si el niño quiere ser vegano budista o adorador de baah o vegetariano,que lo sea cuando le salga de los cojones.tu no puedes hacer que alguien renuncie a una alimentacion pq me salga de los cojones.eso no se hace,pq como ya te digo SOY PADRE. y el sistema endocrino de un niño no es el e un adulto(querias argumentos?)de tal forma que los cuerpos de los los niños son tragaderas de glucosa,y tu no por ejemplo.
tu no haces en 3 dias ni la mitad de actividad que un niño de 2 años...claro,para ti el niño no hace mucho...pero es que la relacion fuerza energia consumida en funcion a su peso estatura esta muy descompensada.por eso le cuesta hacer todo de cojones.
pero si.espera que cuando mi hijo despierte le doy un tofu.
Vale, tu me traes un ejemplo personal de niños... yo te traigo tres: la de la familia de una amiga donde los tres hermanos crecieron vegetarianamente y los tres están perfectamente y nunca tuvieron más problemas que cualquier otro chaval. Pero vamos, esto de la experiencia personal no es que sea demasiado serio, porque tanto tu como yo podriamos estar inventandonos estas historias.
Asi que te traigo algo más serio:
Position of the American Dietetic Association and Dietitians of Canada: Vegetarian dietshttp://www.adajournal.org/article/PIIS0 ... #section18Infants
When vegetarian infants receive adequate amounts of breast milk or commercial infant formula and their diets contain good sources of energy and nutrients such as iron, vitamin B-12, and vitamin D,
growth throughout infancy is normal. Extremely restrictive diets such as fruitarian and raw foods diets have been associated with impaired growth and therefore cannot be recommended for infants and children (29).
Many vegetarian women choose to breastfeed their infants (122), and this practice should be encouraged and supported. The breast milk of vegetarian women is similar in composition to that of nonvegetarians and is nutritionally adequate. Commercial infant formulas should be used if infants are not breastfed or are weaned before 1 year of age. Soy formula is the only option for vegan infants who are not being breastfed.
Soymilk, rice milk, homemade formulas, cow's milk, and goat's milk should not be used to replace breast milk or commercial infant formula during the first year because these foods do not contain the proper ratio of macronutrients nor do they have appropriate micronutrient levels for the young infant.
Guidelines for the introduction of solid foods are the same for vegetarian and nonvegetarian infants (115).
When it is time for protein-rich foods to be introduced, vegetarian infants can have mashed or pureed tofu, legumes (pureed and strained if necessary), soy or dairy yogurt, cooked egg yolks, and cottage cheese. Later, foods such as cubes of tofu, cheese or soy cheese, and bite-size pieces of soy burger can be started. Commercial, full-fat, fortified soymilk, or cow's milk can be used as a primary beverage starting at age 1 year or older for a child who is growing normally and is eating a variety of foods (115). Foods that are rich in energy and nutrients such as legume spreads, tofu, and mashed avocado should be used when the infant is being weaned. Dietary fat should not be restricted in children younger than 2 years.
Breastfed infants whose mothers do not consume dairy products, foods fortified with vitamin B-12, or B-12 supplements regularly will need vitamin B-12 supplements (115). Guidelines for the use of iron and vitamin D supplements in vegetarian infants do not differ from guidelines for nonvegetarian infants. Zinc supplements are not routinely recommended for vegetarian infants because zinc deficiency is rarely seen (123). Zinc intake should be individually assessed and zinc supplements or zinc-fortified foods used during the time when complementary foods are being introduced if the diet is low in zinc or mainly consists of foods with low zinc bioavailability ([124], [125]).
Children
Lacto-ovo-vegetarian children exhibit growth similar to that of their nonvegetarian peers ([114], [119], [126]). Little information about the growth of nonmacrobiotic vegan children is available, although
findings suggest that children tend to be slightly smaller but within the normal ranges of the standards for weight and height ([114], [122]). Poor growth in children has been seen primarily in those on very restricted diets (127).
Frequent meals and snacks and the use of some refined foods (such as fortified breakfast cereals, breads, and pasta) and foods higher in unsaturated fat can help vegetarian children meet energy and nutrient needs. Average protein intake of vegetarian children (lacto-ovo, vegan, and macrobiotic) generally meets or exceeds recommendations, although vegetarian children may consume less protein than nonvegetarian children ([116], [128]). Vegan children may have protein needs that are slightly higher than those of nonvegan children because of differences in protein digestibility and amino acid composition of plant food proteins ([36], [129]), but these protein needs are generally met when diets contain adequate energy and a variety of plant foods (35). Good sources of calcium, iron, and zinc should be emphasized for vegetarian children along with dietary practices that enhance absorption of zinc and iron from plant foods. A reliable source of vitamin B-12 is important for vegan children. If there is concern about vitamin D synthesis owing to limited sunlight exposure, skin tone, season, or sunscreen use, vitamin D supplements or fortified foods should be used. The Table provides information about food sources of nutrients. Food guides for vegetarian children under 4 years of age ([36], [130]) and for older children ([72], [73]) have been published elsewhere.
Asi que mantengo mi posición: si se sabe como una dieta vegetariana (o incluso vegana) no es ningún problema para que un chaval crezca bien. Otra cosa es que tu amiga no se haya informado lo suficiente y no sepa alimentar bien a su hijo o que simplemente su hijo sea enfermizo. Que chavales esmirriados y frágiles como la porcelana también los hay carnívoros.
Eso lo digo yo y todos los médicos y expertos que he consultado. Tu hermano se ha hecho análisis completos? Porque una cosa es que parezca estar sano y otra muy distinta es estarlo. La vitamina B12 es imposible conseguirla de los vegetales (excepto de unas algas muy raras y no creo que tu hermano coma algas) y prácticamente lo mismo para el hierro (de los vegetales sólo se pueden sacar cantidades muy pequeñas). Y si realmente tiene los valores bien y no toma pastillas, será porque se hinchará de alimentos especiales enriquecidos.
Por eso ya puse que hay que tomar complementos de vitamina B12, sobre todo en la infancia. Sobre el hierro... los pistachos aportan muchísimo.
No se exactamente que analisis se hace mi hemano, supongo que los que se hacen mis padres y son los típicos que se hace la gente.
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