RTG-AMD habla de dos nuevos GPUs para 2016 [¡¿POLARIS 12?!].

Dfx escribió:Es lo ideal que se de soporte a mas conexiones, aun asi tanto freesync como gsync estan muy verdes.

Fuad Abazovic, fudzilla.com escribió:Highest end are HBM 2.0, GDDR6

AMD over-hyped the new High Bandwidth Memory standard and now the second generation HBM 2.0 is coming in 2016. However it looks like most of GPUs shipped in this year will still rely on the older GDDR5.

Most of the entry level, mainstream and even performance graphics cards from both Nvidia and AMD will rely on the GDDR5. This memory has been with us since 2007 but it has dramatically increased in speed. The memory chip has shrunken from 60nm in 2007 to 20nm in 2015 making higher clocks and lower voltage possible.

Some of the big boys, including Samsung and Micron, have started producing 8 Gb GDDR5 chips that will enable cards with 1GB memory per chip. The GTX 980 TI has 12 chips with 4 Gb support (512MB per chip) while Radeon Fury X comes with four HMB 1.0 chips supporting 1GB per chip at much higher bandwidth. Geforce Titan X has 24 chips with 512MB each, making the total amount of memory to 12GB.

The next generation cards will get 12GB memory with 12 GDDR5 memory chips or 24GB with 24 chips. Most of the mainstream and performance cards will come with much less memory.

Only a few high end cards such as Greenland high end FinFET solution from AMD and a Geforce version of Pascal will come with the more expensive and much faster HMB 2.0 memory.

GDDR6 is arriving in 2016 at least at Micron and the company promises a much higher bandwidth compared to the GDDR5. So there will be a few choices.

Lisa Su escribió:Now turning to the year ahead, we remain focused on completing our strategic work around three key growth pillars. First in PC's, even in a declining overall market we believe we can regain, client compute and discreet graphics share for the year driven by gaming, VR, commercial and our most competitive product roadmap in more than a decade. We have clear opportunities to regain GPU share in 2016 based on the performance per watt of our new GPU's and software leadership. Earlier this quarter at CES, we announced our new Polaris GPU Architecture which we expect to begin shipping in the middle of 2016. Polaris combines significant design enhancements as well as 14-nanometer FinFET process technology to deliver double the performance per watt of our current GPU offerings.

Raja Koduri, lider RTG escribió:
Yes. We have two versions of these FinFET GPUs. Both are extremely power efficient. This is Polaris 10 and that’s Polaris 11. In terms of what we’ve done at the high level, it’s our most revolutionary jump in performance so far. We’ve redesigned many blocks in our cores. We’ve redesigned the main processor, a new geometry processor, a completely new fourth-generation Graphics Core Next with a very high increase in performance. We have new multimedia cores, a new display engine.

This is very early silicon, by the way. We have much more performance optimization to do in the coming months. But even in this early silicon, we’re seeing numbers versus the best class on the competition running at a heavy workload, like Star Wars—The competing system consumes 140 watts. This is 86 watts. We believe we’re several months ahead of this transition, especially for the notebook and the mainstream market. The competition is talking about chips for cars and stuff, but not the mainstream market.

In summary, it’s fourth generation Graphics Core Next. HDMI 2.0. It supports all the new 4K displays and TVs coming out with just plug and play. It supports DisplayPort 1.3, the latest specification. It’s very exciting 4K support. We can do HAVC encode and decode at 4K on this chip. It’ll be great for game streaming at high resolution, which gamers absolutely love. It takes no cycles away from games. You can record gameplay and still have an awesome frame rate. It’ll be available in mid-2016.

paconan escribió:Ojito con las 490...
Ojala me equivoque pero... Eso huele a refrito...

ROTOR escribió:Se me olvidava lo que espero es que con esto bajen de precio todas la amd de 2da mano que es una locura los precios que se llegan a ver por hardware de más de 3 años.

anikilador_imperial escribió:

ROTOR escribió:Se me olvidava lo que espero es que con esto bajen de precio todas la amd de 2da mano que es una locura los precios que se llegan a ver por hardware de más de 3 años.

Es que si el hardware de hace 3 años sigue moviéndolo todo en ultra 1080p la gente no lo va a vender a 2 euros, es de cajón

ROTOR escribió:

anikilador_imperial escribió:

ROTOR escribió:Se me olvidava lo que espero es que con esto bajen de precio todas la amd de 2da mano que es una locura los precios que se llegan a ver por hardware de más de 3 años.

Es que si el hardware de hace 3 años sigue moviéndolo todo en ultra 1080p la gente no lo va a vender a 2 euros, es de cajón

En ultrá tampoco. Yo veo por ejemplo las 7970->7970 ghz ed -> 280X mueven las cosas en alta, casi en ultra como dices tu. Que es refrito sobre frito las están vendiendo por aquía una media de 150e arriba abajo por hardware que no les queda ninguna garantia.

A mi me parece una exageración. Y de aquí todavia te puedes medio fiar, pero las de ebay la mitad están reventadas de haberlas usado para mining. De las de turbina hay para aburrir y no me fio de ninguna.

TRASTARO escribió:Pues AMD libera la radeon R7 350 con 2GB@GDDR5 a 128bit para el mercado asiatico, con un precio de USD$90 dolares.



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TRASTARO escribió:Un empleado del departamento tecnico y mercadotecnia de AMD, menciona que Polaris estara fabricado por Global Foundries a 14nm FinFET, usaran TrueAudio para la inmersion VR [via LiquidVR], contara con DP 1.3.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/4 ... g_here_on/

paconan escribió:
pero eso ya se sabía no?

a ver si sacan alguna diapositiva nueva....

yo si eso ya lo miraré mañana que tengo a mi lara por ahí perdida en medio de un bosque (y se lo está pasando pipa saltando de rama en rama)

ROTOR escribió:Parece que habemus fury en 14 nm:

Dfx escribió:.. y parece que poco a poco se va a confirmando que las nuevas series o solo van a ser un refresh a 14nm o solo traeran optimizaciones de arquitectura como mucho, y en el peor de los casos veremos algun refrito.

TRASTARO escribió:

Dfx escribió:.. y parece que poco a poco se va a confirmando que las nuevas series o solo van a ser un refresh a 14nm o solo traeran optimizaciones de arquitectura como mucho, y en el peor de los casos veremos algun refrito.

Y eso parece ser la tendencia desgraciadamente.

Dfx escribió:

TRASTARO escribió:.. ya seria un logro, se esta hablando mucho de que quizas ya no traigan Trueaudio.

TRASTARO escribió:

Dfx escribió:

TRASTARO escribió:.. ya seria un logro, se esta hablando mucho de que quizas ya no traigan Trueaudio.

Ese es un problema grabe en AMD y en lo que era ATI: No promueven sus tecnologias, y lo que es pero, no dan soporte [o tardan demasiado en responder] a cuando los programadores independientes o de empresas solicitan ayuda, no hay mucha documentacion y problemas en los SDK.

Tambien hay quienes dice que incluso podria no traer los async shaders, cosa que dudo, pero lo de TrueAudio pocos juegos lo usan, y mal usan, con lo que si seria mas factible quitarlo si es un circuito, con lo que disminuiria el consumo

WhyCry, videocardz escribió:AMD Polaris 10 and Polaris 11 to succeed Radeon Fury and Radeon 300 series

According to the new roadmap, that is slightly more informative than a graph shown at Capsaicin, Polaris architecture might replace both Radeon Fury and Radeon 300 series. This roadmap clearly suggest that all chips might be replaced with silicons based on Polaris architecture. Does this mean there are are no rebrands in Radeon 400 series? Well it might be hard to answer this question right now, but that would be a very good move from AMD.
AMD Radeon R9 490 and R9 480 based on Polaris 10?

New roadmap also sheds some light on what to expect from Radeon 400 series GPU positioning. I think it is highly unlikely Fury series will disappear, instead both Fury and Polaris 10 cards should coexist on the market for some time. AMD otherwise wouldn’t release Radeon Pro Duo, if they were not planning to continue Fiji production.

Also you might have noticed that Fury Series block is much smaller than Polaris 10 block. It could further suggest that Polaris 10 will be used on more cards than just R9 490 series. Polaris 10 could therefore launch as R9 490 and R9 480 series, which I think makes a lot of sense now.

Meanwhile Polaris 11 would fill everything in mid-range and entry-level segments. If I’m right, then AMD made one of the best decisions in years. Rather than keep rebranding existing cards, they are focusing entirely on new architecture. This way if you ever hear about Radeon 400 series, you will immediately know it’s power efficient 14nm FinFET GCN 4.0 architecture.

Furthermore this roadmap also confirms that Polaris 10 and 11 will support HEVC de/encoding and HDMI 2.0, DisplayPort 1.3 specifications.
AMD Vega and Navi

Moreover, we are told that AMD Vega, first architecture with HBM2, will arrive next year (2017). I think this is important, because some of our readers that were literally counting pixels on Capsaicin graph, were still hoping for late 2016 launch. Well this roadmap clearly says there is no Vega this year, but well it’s just a roadmap, it can always change.

In 2018 AMD will unveil its new Navi architecture that will bring NextGen memory. For now AMD representatives refuse to describe what is hidden behind this phrase.

Also I encourage you to check our new page dedicated to GPU Roadmaps, where we keep the latest information about hew chips.

niñodepapa escribió:..definitivamente el hilo de Polaris ha quedado para trolear y hablar de la GTX 1060

AMD Radeon RX 470 and Radeon RX 460 Official Gaming Performance Revealed – Polaris 11 To Achieve 1080p / 60 FPS in eSports and MOBA Titles

The first official performance numbers of the Radeon RX 470 and Radeon RX 460 have been revealed by AMD themselves during a launch presentation of Polaris in Asia. The new graphics cards will further expand Radeon RX series family with parts that cost less and perform well. The GCN 4.0 DNA inside the Polaris GPU makes the cards very power efficient and deliver great increases in performance over their predecessors.

AMD Radeon RX 470 Built For 1080p 60 FPS+ Gaming, Radeon RX 460 Designed For 60 FPS MOBA Gaming on Full HD

Both, the Radeon RX 470 and the Radeon RX 460 utilize the Polaris chip architecture. Radeon RX 470 is based on the Polaris 10 GPU albeit a cut down variant from the one featured on the Radeon RX 480. The Radeon RX 460 features the Polaris 11 GPU which was supposed to feature 16 CUs according to previous slides but specs for this card show that it will actually feature 14 CUs. Both cards are aimed at the budget segment with a $149 US price for the Radeon RX 470 and $99 US price for the Radeon RX 460. The performance slides show what should be expected from these cards.

kechua escribió:Solo faltan los precios y fechas de salida

andapinchao escribió:lo que no se yo es esa 460 se ve muy basica , estan diciendo que rinde como una 260x. Creo que seria un fail la verdad. No esperaba menos que el rendimiento de una 950 de nvidia.

neiger_biker escribió:La 470 pasa a ser de 4gb solo?