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Comments regarding the High Court Action brought by Nintendo

I hope with the following Information I am able to give you a little insight into the recent happenings and about the misleading press release of Nintendo.

Before the Nintendo Press release has been distributed, I have delivered a Notice of Appeal to Nintendo, as well as to the High Court of Hong Kong. I am not exactly sure why Nintendo’s press department didn’t mention a word about it. The Judgment was not a real trial yet, it was a Summary Judgment with a single Judge. Usually such Summary Judgments are in case of bounced bank checks where no trial is needed and everything is straight forward.

With all due respect to the High Court of Hong Kong, but no Intellectual Property (IP) specialist was assigned to this case. Already at the first hearing the Judge mentioned that it’s a pity Hong Kong has no IP specialist anymore and that he finds the Copyright Law of Hong Kong very confusing. After some research, it looks like the Judge is a specialist for maritime laws. He made several comments during the hearings which seemed to observers like this was his first IP case ever.

The Summary Judgment itself was based on the Section 273 of the Hong Kong Copyright Ordinance about “circumventing a copy-protection”. No copy-protection exists in the Gameboy or Gameboy Advance game cartridges. The Judge didn’t hear a specialist or at least an independent 3rd party expert opinion - he took it for granted from the explanations by Nintendo that there is a copy-protection.

Furthermore, the Judge found that “by analogy with drugs, it[the setcion 273] is not aimed at the drug addict but at the drug trafficker”. I fail to understand his logic, as this would mean that the drug store selling the injection needles to drug addicts or maybe even the manufacturer of the container where the drug addict keeps the drug could be held liable?

After legal actions in the USA against Bung Enterprises in the late nineties (for selling and manufacturing videogame development and backup equipment) this was the second Court Judgment ever regarding products of this nature. Regarding information made available to me in the Court Room, the case against Bung and its US distributor Carl Industries Inc was brought to an end in their disfavor by Bung not complying with Court Orders and not paying ordered penalties. The actual judgment was written by Nintendo representatives, without the Judge properly going through the arguments. The legality or illegality of the products in question has therefore never been argued in a real trial anywhere in the world. A serious trial, with competent Judges, is now definitely needed to settle the question once and for all. This is why I have decided to appeal.

I am not happy about the direction where this is heading, neither are supporters and legitimate users of the tools. Again, I have to stress once more, that the very same hardware under attack is used by thousands of hobbyist users and even professional developers for legitimate purpose. Very embarrassing for Nintendo: even the large publisher, who made the original game used in Court for demonstrating purpose, bought hundreds and hundreds of Flash Cartridges from my company for beta testing. And so did numerous other top 10 publishers listed in the stock market.

The products I have sold are not circumventing any copy protections, same as a Floppy Disk Drive and a 3.5" Disk doesn't – in fact there is no copy-protection existing, as commonly known by the gaming industry.

I completely understand Nintendo’s fight against piracy, but I believe they are aiming at the wrong targets. With Digital Media and the Internet nowadays, publishers will have to change their strategy. They just can’t win the fight against the Progress without removing our primary rights: presumption of innocence and the right for backup. Nintendo doesn’t need to prove you are a pirate anymore, it is assumed you all are if you have the technical means to copy.

Además ha vuelto a mencionar que muchos de sus clientes son desarrolladores oficiales, incluída la propia Nintendo en numerosas ocasiones.

yuanda_zhu

puesto que el principal problema es que vendian chips y consolas previamente modificadas cosa que no es legal

Pero el juicio no es por esto.

Escrito originalmente por TiPiCaL
incluso para utilizar emuladores legales o algun otro tipo de software legal

Escrito originalmente por TiPiCaL
A ver lik-Sang no vendia juegos pirateados ni chips con bios ni nada de eso si no que vendia soportes para grabacion para hacer copias de seguridad que la gente las hace para progamar incluso para utilizar emuladores legales o algun otro tipo de software legal

y sobre lo de la ley de la copia de seguridad legitima si tu pagas 60€ por un juego pues ya puedes hacerte tu copia de seguridad ya que tu pagastes el juego y si luego falla tienes que tener seguridad o garantia

Como ya dije eso de la copia de seguridad no lo trago y en cuanto a programar para GBA Nintendo vende kits de desarrollo para compañias, y esa es la forma autorizada para hacerlo, todo lo demas son excusas mas o menos afortunadas, como la vieja excusa de los hackers al decir que lo que hacian les servia para aprender informatica, bien, si quieres aprender informatica apuntate a una academia o algo, en este caso lo mismo, si quieres programar para GBA tienes que llegar a un acuerdo con Nintendo, si no lo haces mala suerte, el mundo es cruel.

¿Son realmente legales los emuladores y el software realizado para GBA sin que halla pagado la licencia de Nintendo?

Que pesados sois con lo del cuchillo, vaya analogia mas estupida e incorrecta.

Pero por otro lado la presunción de inocencia es un derecho y aunque solo uno de cien sean los que lo utilicen para desarrollar, para mi ya es suficiente para que sea legal.

Escrito originalmente por JaviMadri
Pues no, si tu compras un hardware y te haces un sdk (software development kit) programado por ti o por tu coleguita el jaker ke no tenga ni una línea de código propietario, como si kieres usar la GBA de radio. Tu compras un hardware y tienes derecho a exprimirlo. O ke pasa? Ke si io kiero hacer el pong para game boy advance para jugar exclusivamente yo, sin venderlo ni sacar beneficio ekonomico, no puedo?.

La tonteria mas tocha es la ke dices tu, ke dices ke los cartuchos son para lo ke son y los ke digan ke no se engañan. Pues bien, los cd-r son para lo ke son, las cintas virgenes son para lo ke son, y todo ''es para lo ke es''. Por lo tanto, los cuchillos son tambien para lo ke son, es decir para matar gente, puesto ke es posible hacerlo kon ellos, ke no los vendan mas.

Claro que tienen garantia la tipica garantia que se llama vulgarmente devolucion de 30 a 90 dias por defectos de fabrica enviale a sony una copia del the gateway rallada y a ver si te envian otra copia y sobre los cartuchos tu compras el cartucho fisicamente y sus instrucciones y tal ya se que no compras los derechos pero compras una copia de esa informacion que tu si quieres la puedes copiar para ti mismo mas faltaria