Sony compra el 19% de Square

decirte q la PS2, no mostro ninguna maquina final en ninguna feria hasta q se lanzo oficialmente en USA y CEE, o muy poco antes (EL ECTS) y tras su lanzamiento en Japon, las ferias hasta entonces solo tenian una burda "simulacion" de la PS2 final basada en un chip IA-32bits... q es esto? Un PUTO INTEL X86 COMO EL DE TU PC!!! XDXDXDXDXDXDXD


Salu2 a los desinformados... y a ver si se retoma de nuevo el Hilo, q esto va de Square, no de desprestigiar a Xbox (q ya desprestigiara ella a otros, en vez de al reves)


Como dijo un profesor mio una vez: si alguna vez os dirigis a las masas, pensad q son ignorantes por defecto... XDXDXDXD


PD: Mejor q Windows? Unix (q no Linux) pero su pesimo soporte de Drivers, lo matara (eso de esperar hasta un año para q te pille un hard nuevo... me jode mogollon!!)
Mejor q Windows? Windows XP!!! ES la POLLA!!! XDXDXDXD

capitulo I

- todo empezo un dia, cuando square hizo una peli del ff para la gran pantalla, y la cago en todos los paises, el pais q mas la vio fue españa (normal los españoles nos lo tragamos todo, lo q no quiere decir q no me gustara, pq la peli a mi me gusto), entonces square pictures cerro por defecto de beneficios, y llegaron los chicos de sony y compraron las acciones de square y entonces......

continuara con la siguiente noticia

¿Qué será lo próximo? ¿Microsoft comprando Sega? ¿Nintendo adquiriendo Capcom? Que alguien les pare los pies, una cosa son las exclusivas y otra destrozar la competencia...

Sin exclusivas no hay competencia

una cosa son las exclusivas (Halo, Project Gotham, GT3...) y otra cosa es comprar una puta compañia para joder a la competencia (en caso de q se confirme el extremo de q Sony sea algo mas q un simple "accionista" ya q en principio, no tiene poderes para decidir nada con ese % de acciones).

No confundamos la guerra de competencias con comprar compañias para matar la competencia. Son cosas totalmente diferentes, y en este caso, a mi parecer, Sony esta obrando mal, esta empezando a comprar compañias (comenzo en su dia con la mal trecha Psygnosis q ya no es ni la mitad de lo q era gracias a Sony) y no como microsoft (Halo, Project Gotham, Matrix temporalmente, etc... ) o Nintendo (Resident Evil), q compra juegos y no compañias. Aunque ambas tengan equipos internos y 2nd Parties (equipos asociados en exclusividad, como Poliphony Digital con Sony).

Salu2.

Despues de la compra por parte de Sony del 19% de SquareSoft, las dos compañias explicaron en rueda de prensa los nuevos parametros de esta situacion.

Ken Kutagari, presidente de SCE, comento que "No pediremos a Square que programe solamente para PsOne/ PS2", "solo les pediremos que programen juegos divertidos que gusten a todo el mundo".
Y curiosamente, los responsables de Square opinan que " Nosotros acostumbramos a programar para aquella plataforma que es la mas popular", "y ahora esas plataformas son Playstation y Playstation 2"

El tema de las consolas portatiles es distinto ya que posiblemente tambien desarrollaran para GameBoy Advance.

Los responsables de Square esperan concentrarse en la creacion de juegos y especialmente la saga Final Fantasy despues de la aportacion economica de Sony. En el futuro esperan diversificar creando otros juegos que tambien sean superventas.

Lo que no se especifica es la influencia que puede tener Sony en el servicio de juego online de Square, Playonline.

lo de play online, mientras sea de pago se lo pueden meter donde les quepa... XDXD

Salu2

Mientras me sigan sacando el final, a mi me vale...
¿y eso porque?
Pues porque si yo me compro la play2 va a ser por el final...
Simple y claro, no?
Pero lo que realmente me parece mal es que no programen mas que para una...aunque los juegos de psx no salian para pc y en vez de quejarnos nos pillabamos un emulador...
Y es que yo lo veo asi...Xbox viene fuerte, game cube...bueno, viene, que ya es algo...y la verdades que la play2 se queda un poco atras en cuanto a prestaciones...Entonces o sacan una play3, cosa que joderia a los millones de usuarios de la ps2, o afianzan el mercado...
Pero lo malo es que se estan poniendo un poco pesados ya...a este paso si quiero jugar a un crazy taxi, me tendre que comprar la xbox, para el final, la play2 y para...para el que sea que salga bueno para la game cube...ya me entendeis.
En pc microsoft si es monopolio, porque se carga las cosas antes de que salga sea comprandolo o sacando un sistema unico para microsoft (tipo usb, drivers y linux en sus principios) pero la play2 ya esta aqui desde hace tiempo, y si microsoft se la come sera por culpa de sony, que no habra echo lo suficiente por su consola...

Aquí os dejo la conferencia de prensa en chiquitito que ocupa mucho pero merece la pena leerlo(sobre todo la última respuesta, ojalá )


S =Presidente de Square(Nao Suzuki)
W =Yoichi Wada(Director de Square)
K =Ken Kutaragi (presidente de SCE )

Q: When did you begin serious discussions?
S: The first thing we had to recognize was that, once we entered new fields like movies, our software development power was going downhill because we began to gear ourselves away from games. So once we discussed with President Kutaragi how to recover our stake in the packaged software market, the topic of investment came up.
K: We began actually talking back in September. We had decided on an investment figure rather than a percentage. That's why we stopped short at around 19%; we based that percentage on the value of the stock at the time we decided to invest. This 14.9 billion yen figure is derived from software development costs for the next year and beyond. This has nothing to do with management rights or anything.
W: This capital will be used to strengthen our position and return to our main business.

Q: Does that mean you're quitting all businesses outside of games?
S: It's not a matter of quitting everything. Movies and games are two very separate things. We also have a very large prior investment in the online marketplace; there's still a lot of potential in this field, so we will confinue investment on a more prudent level.
W: We've also amassed a wealth of technical know-how from movies, such as facial expressions in CG, and how to reuse this know-how in game softwre.

Q: Doesn't this 14.9 billion investment simply cover the losses from the Final Fantasy movie?
S: We're not pinning the blame entirely on the movie, but the fact is we were naive in our way of thinking. Production cost more than double what we originally planned. The managers of the movie project (director Tomoyuki Takechi) took responsibility for this by stepping down. I was originally against enlarging the scope of the movie project, but I also cannot escape repsonsibility for this. It would be pointless for me to resign now, though; instead I believe I can work harder and return Square to its glory days once again.
W: I'd like to add that it's still too early to completely sum up the movie's performance. We still have video, DVD, and merchandise sales to think about in the future. We are pulling out of the movie business, but the secondary results of our venture have been well worth it. This is shown best in Final Fantasy X, the PlayStation 2 game we released last July. The realistic characters and expressions you see in the game are based on technology cultivated while working on the movie. I believe we have successfully reached our goals in the field of CG development.

Q: Will there be any further investment?
K: There are no plans for that at this time. We'll take things as they go.

Q: What do you mean when you refer to the "glory days"?
S: We have retained the core members of our development staff all this time. I want to listen to them now, what they want to make. Before, people and money were simply going around willy-nilly, and we risked running the FF franchise into the ground by concentrating everything on it. In the next year or two, though, I want to see Square making several million-selling titles per year, I want to see Square selling a million of games other than FF. That's why we are returning to the core business of making games from now on.

Q: What will happen to supplying games for platforms other than PlayStation and PlayStation 2?
S: That possibility has not completely fallen away. However, we don't think the PlayStation will suddenly lose popularity. Our belief has always been to produce games for whatever platform is the most popular, and for now, that platform is the PlayStation and PlayStation 2.
K: The PlayStation and PlayStation 2 are being played by people all around the world. Soon we'll be seeing lots of games that'll be played through networks, and I'm sure the PlayStation will not be the only outlet for these network games. There are portable phones and computers, for one. However, the online game environment will be the same for every piece of [net-ready] hardware. The age of nothing but packaged software went away with the 20th century. That's a very important point to consider.

Q: What will happen to PlayOnline? You were proceeding with plans for the entertainment network with Namco and Enix.
S: There is no change to the agreement we had with the two companies, but we will be rebalancing our time and ability with an eye towards packaged software. We won't worry about anything other than games for now; starting with Final Fantasy XI next spring our first aim is to slowly gather a userbase. Namco and Enix are also behind this.
W: The PlayOnline concept will remain the same, but for now we are gearing it to be an entirely Final Fantasy XI-based service.

Q: What merits does SCE see in this investment?
K: Software development is a process of creation. It works at a level below the business side, how much of a share this console has or whatnot. Since we've entered the market with the PlayStation, I believe the playfield has expanded remarkably from the days of Sega and Nintendo. We're not asking Square to make games only for PlayStation and PlayStation 2; we're simply asking them to make fun games that everyone can get into. If a machine with more creative power than PlayStation 2 comes out in the future, then maybe we'll cooperate with that company too. (laughs) Besides, once networks are ubiquitous the dividing lines between consoles will become even more blurry than before.
S: There are no disadvantages in teaming up with SCE. SCE has an extremely open policy in matters like these. Besides, when you think about who's driving the industry, it's SCE, it's the PlayStation, it's Kutaragi... (laughs) They're a tough act to follow.

Q: Are you limiting yourselves to the PlayStation platform with SCE's investment?
S: The PS is an extremely popular platform, so we don't see any disadvantage in supporting it. We are planning to continue pursuing opportunities to supply games on portable systems like Nintendo's.

Q: You were reportedly in discussions with Nintendo about Game Boy Advance development; does this have any impact on those talks?
S: We are still progressing with those plans. We don't believe the portable and home console markets conflict with each other. If SCE decides to release a portable machine, though, that's a different story. For the time being, though, our stance towards Game Boy Advance and the WonderSwan has not changed at all. What happens next depends on the hardware developers.

No se porque nos preocupamos tanto con el juego online, la verdad, cada empresa tiene sus servidores/redes, con lo que solamente las API para la comunicación /cliente/servidor serán diferentes.

Aunque pensandolo mejor, quien se llevaria la palma con los juegos online seria Microsoft dado que no tiene que pagar Royalities/Licencias nbinguna por tener servidores Windows2K/XP Server para poner en marcha esta red de juegos online, encima creo haber oido por alguna parte que se están planteando o ya tienen hecho algun contrato con empresas fabricantes de servidores.

Si Sony se quiere meter a fondo en esta guerra haciendo cosas como esa creo las tiene todas para perder.

SAlu2.

Pos mira, mirandolo asi ARK del KAOS tiene muchisima razon...

Pero este tema de los juegos exclusivos no es de la actualidad, sino al contrario. Antes, la exclusividad de juegos en consolas era totalmente notable como por ejemplo: Juegos de SEGA solo para consolas SEGA (MAster System , MEga Drive, etc..), Juegos de nintendo , idem, ATARI, etc....

DEsde siempre que llevo juegando con las consolas era asi, hasta que un dia, Sega y Nintendo se propusieron en sacar juegos de maquinas recreativas de otras marcas que logicamente no tenian consolas como : Midway (Mortal Kombat), etc...

Yo creo que ahora estamos llegando a un punto en que la mayoria de juegos buenos como :FFx, MGS2, seran multiplataforma.

No creo que las empresas desarrolladoras se arriesguen a tener como mercado ususarios de una sola consola...Es como en los PC's, buenos programas se pueden encontrar en varios sistemas: MAc, Linux, WIndows, etc...

Chicos, es la GLOBALIZACION!!!!

Salu2.